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Tap Water Conditioner - 13,000G! Free Shiping!
Item #1314490339

Current Auction Time: Tue May 14 11:37:04 2024


Final: $9.99 First Bid $9.99
Time left 00:00 # of Bids 1 (bid history)
Started Aug 13 2011 - 07:12:19 PM Location Dayton OH 45424 United States
Ended Aug 27 2011 - 07:12:19 PM
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High Bidder Dianas (18/18) 10-50

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Description

This is the active ingredient found in many aquarium dechlorinators and conditioners. It is also frequently used in water treatment plants before water is discharged into rivers. It does not contain fillers or other ingredients of dubious value and is 99% pure.

FOR AQUARIUM USE ONLY.

Treats:
1 ppm chlorinated water - 13,200G (average/typical value found in many US water supplies)
2 ppm chlorinated water - 6,600G
4 ppm chlorinated water - 3,300G (max allowable by EPA)

Solution:
Pour contents (125g) into 1 gallon of distilled water (tap water is okay).
Use 1 drop per gallon for tap water containing 2-2.5ppm of Chlorinated water
Use 2 drops per gallon for tap water containing 4-5 ppm of Chlorinated water

If you change a lot of water and don't want to stand there and do a lot of drops, you can use (and will be more than sufficient):
Use 1 tsp per 50G for 2-3ppm of Chlorinated water
Use 2 tsp per 50G for 3-5ppm of Chlorinated water


PLEASE READ FULL DESCRIPTION to understand how this product works. I am providing a detailed explanation of this product. You will find that vendors selling similar products (there are various chemicals used) will OVERESTIMATE the potency of their product often using 'ideal' scenarios. Some times this works but by using overly optimistic numbers you risk the health of your fish.

The Chemistry (undergoes three different reactions, but all remove chlorine):

Na2S2O3 + 4HOCl + H2O > 2NaHSO4 + 4HCl
Na2S2O3 + HOCl > Na2SO4 + S + HCl
2Na2S2O3 + HOCl > Na2S4O6 + NaCl + NaOH

The Math:
It takes about 1.86mg to neutralize 1mg of chlorine in your water (at pH of 8). So if your water has 1ppm of chlorine in it, then you will need 1.86mg per liter.

Since we care about your fish, let's over-estimate the needs a little, as you will read below, it's hard to overdose. Let's assume there is 2ppm chlorine (typical upper range of what is found in tap water) and let's round it to 2.5-to-1 to neutralize chlorine (just to be safe).

Then there are 2grams of chlorine in 1000L of water. Then we need 5g of dechlorinating crystal to neutralize it. That means 125g will treat 25,000L of water. There are 3.7854L per gallon. So this solution will treat 6,600 gallons of water! You may find that there is often less chlorine in your water. If you want to be VERY safe, the maximum allowable chlorine levels for your city water supply is 4ppm (http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/basicinformation/disinfectants.cfm). That means 125g will treat 3300G!

If you have a 100G tank and you change your water by 50% every week, that's 1.25 to 2.5 years' worth of dechlorinator! Again, this is a conservative estimate to protect your fish. If you have a chlorine test kit, you may find that you can actually treat twice the amount of water. Using the above recommendations you will be able to treat your tap water no matter what level of chlorine your water company uses.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):
Q: Are there any other differences between this at what is at the pet store?
A: Some aquarium dechlorinators have chemicals to keep it stable in solution form. This is the dry active ingredient, so you just dissolve it before use. Also, some brand name dechlorinators have ingredients of dubious value that supposedly helps with fish health. Many of those claims are not dissimilar to wild and unsubstantiated claims made by health food products - that is, they may work, but there is not a wide-body of scientific studies that substantiate their claims. Finally they are more expensive because you are paying for the overhead of marketing and bottling. Most aquarium dechlorinators are as much as 80% plain water. It is a known marketing trick that customers feel better paying for bigger packages even if a small package provides the same value (vitamins, OTC drugs, etc all have fillers such as starches for this reason). It also provides the added benefit of being easier to measure and harder to overdose when you dilute it. The form we are selling it is in the same for as waste water treatment plants use in bulk to treat water before discharging it into rivers (pure, simple, economical, and no non-sense science).

Q: My pet store dechlorator claims it can remove heavy metals.
A: This product does too. Just like your pet store dechlorinator, it too is a chelator of certain metals in negligible concentrations.

Q: Can I use this for Chloramine?
A: Yes, no, and it depends. This product will react with chloramine and leave ammonia. How much is left and what is harmful to your fish depends on your chloramine concentration, pH, temperature, and fish species. If you keep your Aquarium at 90 degrees Fahrenheit or lower AND you have a pH of 7 or lower, then this will be safe for MOST fish. If you have questions about this, I can provide you links. I can also calculate the free ammonia concentration if you send me your pH, temperature, and chloramine concentration (city water report). There's no enough space to explain the complex nature of chemical solutions in the space allotted.

Q: How do I know if I have Chlorine or Chloramine?
A: Your city water report will tell you what your utility uses. Another way is to test for ammonia. If you find ammonia in your tap water, it's safe to assume you have chloramine. If you have trouble finding this, send me your Utility's name, city, state, and zip code and I will try to find it for you.

Q: Is it possible to overdose with this stuff?
A: It is very difficult. Three to four times recommended dosage will still work. Please not that using too much may reduce the dissolved oxygen in the aquarium and it is important to keep the water properly aerated. This applies to all dechlorinators especially when overdosing. Try to use the recommended dose.

Q: Is this dangerous?
A: No. I recommend this for ornamental fish use only. It is used in controlled concentrations for medical and other uses. For instance, it may be used to neutralize bleach (an equal part stock solution to bleach solution will be MORE than enough to neutralize bleach). DO NOT consume, but rest assured, it is less toxic to as toxic as any other aquarium dechlorinating product. It has a NFPA Rating of 1,0, 0 for health, fire and reactivity, respectively. An EPA toxicity study indicated that sodium thiosulfate is not very toxic to aquatic species. It is less dangerous than other approved dechlorinators and uses less oxygen in the reaction process.

Q: Do you have a MSDS.
A: Yes, send me an e-mail and I can provide you with one. Or may also add a note after purchasing that you would like a copy and I will include it with your shipment.

Q: I still don't feel safe using this.
A: That's okay. One of the main reasons why many manufacturers are able to charge so much for dechlorinators and water conditioners is because they provide the peace of mind. A brand/name you can trust without having to understand complex chemistry. I can provide you the information and the active ingredient, but for peace of mind, you will have to educate yourself on this or buy a brand name. Not everyone has the time to learn how this works and there is nothing wrong with concentrating your time on other issues.

Q: How do -you- use this stuff?
A: I will use it as indicated above but sometimes if I'm in a rush and I don't want to do a lot of math, I will just pour it directly into the tank a guess on the amount (often overdosing). Sometimes I will just use 1-2 teaspoons per 50G (also an overdose). I have used this method to treat water for Discus, plecos, corys, oscars, jack demseys, neon tetras, cardinal tetras, snails, bettas, and a lot of other common ornamental fish found at pet stores.

FREE USPS SHIPPING. SELLER DETERMINES APPROPRIATE METHOD. We will not ship until payment is received. We try to ship all orders the same/next business day (but it depends on when order/payment is made) and we may ship up to 3 business days after payment is received. EXPEDITED shipping is available but not recommended as it negates the savings of buying this product (if you really need it ASAP, I recommend you go to the pet store).

Again, this is for treating tap water used for aquarium/ornamental fish only.



Bid History:

Bidders Bid Time Bid Comments
Dianas (18/18) 10-50 Aug 23 2011 - 06:20:36 PM $9.99 

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